I'll be glad to put the photos up for you, Bill. You can just write your text and put 'picture 1', 'picture 2', etc. and I will add the photos in.

Dale,
Thanks. Will do.
Bill

Ahoy, Eagle,

I have my 12 KW genset tee'd into the radiator plumbing between the M-11 Cummins engine and radiator. I'm afraid that I'm not much help to your question about down the road cooling, because I have two engine driven A-6 A/C compressors (The big old round ones used in old Cadillacs, Buicks) so I don't run my genset while driving. I do have a pair of electric cooling fans blowing air through the radiator while the genset runs. They were first set up with a thermal switch turning them off and on. Was disruptive to sleep, so I let one run continuous, the other one is switched, and never comes on. Fans are Mercedes, and are noisier than the genset. Never any cooling problems with Cummins or genset.

As an airplane guy, plumbing them like this is extremely poor practice. No engine should ever have the faintest notion that there is another one about!!

Enjoy /s/ Bob

JC,I would not do that setup on a 6v92 keep in mind the 6v92 takes water from the radiator then the water pumps pushes the water through the oil coolers first then through the engine it will over power the water pump on the generator may work while sitting but I have been around 2 many that setup have caused major problems to both engines a remote radiator and a cage blower is the best way to go cost about 600 bucks just my way of doing it

good luck
Clifford

Bob Belter and Clifford.
Bob,
I had problems on the road when my generator coolant supply came from the "wye" between the engine (my m-11) and the generator. Since I provided the supply from the bottom of the radiator on it own line (completely separate from the engine supply) I have had wonderful success on the 3000 mile round trip to SD and back in temps ranging to the high 90s (We ran at 97 degrees for 3+ hours, running all three roof airs and no problem with the generator temps.

Clifford,
Regardless of the type of engine, my suggested method (after several different attempts) will work. If the engine coolant is provided to the water pump from a dedicated source, and the radiator is adequate size, is full, the return is unimpeded, it cannot rob the generator. My method relies on the above, and keeping the generator coolant supply to it's water pump, separate. In this case, the engine returns it's coolant to the radiator in a loop, and the generator returns it's coolant in another loop. The return can be wyed (mine is). As long as each water pump supply is parallel to the other, I can't see where there is a problem. The system relies on the physics that the return will replenish the suction of the system to the water pumps. As long as that takes place, then one water pump can't rob the other. Further, I know of others with 6V92 and 8V92 engines that have successfully tied their generators into the engine coolant. Definitely, some have not worked but others seem to work fine. Ed Taylor's is wyed on the supply to the engine and on the return and works fine.
I think the key to my recommended connections is to assure the radiator is adequate size and in good condition, and the supply and return lines are adequate size.
FWIW, I worked in power plants for my 32 year career where everything we did had something to do with flows, pressures and temperatures of fluids, from low pressure and temp to very high where things happen very fast. Having had the problems I had with the easy way(s), getting down to the practical applications of purpose, I started talking with others (much smarter and more educated than me for sure. I talked to bus people and power plant specialists as well), and finally came to the successful result I should have had to begin with.
Given the variables of:
Good size and condition radiator.
Adequate size supply and return lines.
Adequate size fan.
Keeping the radiator level full.
Driving the gears on grades to control engine temp. (or use a spray system)
I feel the system will work very well.

Enough again,
Bill

Hey Bill , Iam not sure if what you explained is what I have lol I do know mine works well , and I have a extra rad in the spare tirespace in Our Eagle and It seems to work well

Andy, you have a remote radiator setup,Bill wasn't that Bryon Pigg that lost a engine on the generator last year tied in to the main system on his series 60 ? Bill if you are happy with yours and it works good but they don't work here in the 115 or 120 degree AZ heat when the 6v92 starts running at 200 degrees.
Over the years I have seen the 2 strokes hit 230 to 250 before blowing something that will fry that little engine as the Kubota engine Dick uses has no sleeves

Clifford

Clifford,
I am not aware of Byron losing a generator engine. Never heard that.
There is no denying that temps like you say at 115 / 120 may have a huge effect on the ability to run the generator, but even if it runs on its own radiator, you will likely have problems at those temps. I know I did when I had mine running on its own radiator, though I admit that could have been the location as much as the temps.
Even if the engine temps are allowed to get to 230 or 250, the generator (at least Dick Wrights Kubotas) are set to shutdown at 230 degrees automatically. That will happen regardless of the type of coolant system. Please correct me if i am wrong, but I have always been told that our diesel engines (any of them) should not be allowed to run above 210. If that is true, the generator should still be running just fine.
BTW. I don't mean to be in a debate on this, just that I think it is a good application, but I do see that there are always limitations and perhaps better methods.
Bill

Bill, 200+ is where the 60 s run the 92 series are 205 max shut down at 210 maybe lol but after shut down the temps keep on rising they will reach 250.I never owned but 1 Wirco generator a 13kw and it always gave me problems shutting down here in the summer last generator that was in my green Eagle was a Universal no fan for pulling air into the box remote mount radiator between the frame 3 speed cage fan always set on low and never in 12 years shut down

good luck

Hi Ya'll

It is going to be another week or two before I can get to the project I promised of pictures and drawings of my generator coolant system and the swing-out the generator is mounted on.

I had to have a (minor) skin cancer removed from my chest. The cancer wasn't serious, but they did a job with the excision and there are lots of stitches that the Dr. said I can't strain or get risk getting dirty at all. He knows me and I have told him before that Eagles buses and dirty clothes go hand in hand. I will follow his advice and leave things alone. I will be working on the drawings so they will be ready when I get the pictures. The pictures I want to include will require me to swing out the generator. When I do this, I need to change the oil and all the filters. Thats where the stress comes in.
Sorry for now, but I will get to it.

Bill